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Louis Vuitton Discussion Forum Archive

The information on this page is from our archive of Louis Vuitton-specific information. The Louis Vuitton Discussion Board was created when this site was new (2002), but was cancelled due to trolls and abusive posts. Much of the information is still relative and interesting. Though we edit content, My Poupette.com is not liable for inaccurate information that may be posted here.

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"FAKE LV BAGS-SCAM||321068"

I PURCHASE SPEEDY FROM VITO BORKER 2754 CONEY ISLAND PMB 48 BROOKLYN NY 646-261-9616 IT WAS FAKE. HE WOULD NOT GIVE MONEY BACK AND HE DID NOT SEND ME THE COMPLETE ORDER WHEN I CALLED HE HUNG UP ON ME AND WOULD NOT CONTACT ME."2002-10-09 CANDY"

"FAKE LV BAGS-SCAM||321141"

Hi Angie 1531, Did you buy the bag directly from Vito or through an eBay auction. If he sold you the bag through eBay, go through eBay's Fraud and Prevention section under eBay's Safe Harbor. If you bought it directly from Vito, call the authorities. He has defrauded you, and also committed trademark infringement by selling counterfeit goods. Keep in touch with us on this important issue!! Regards, Carol"2002-10-09 Carol"

"FAKE LV BAGS-SCAM||321144"

I am so sorry this happened to you. Something like this really makes you lose faith in people really quick! How did you pay for the item? If it is by credit card, immediately contact your credit card company and file a "chargeback". Explain what happened and tell them you were under the impression the bag was authentic and it turned out to be a fake and that the seller refuses to contact you. IF you paid via money order, find out when the seller cashed the check and immediately file mail fraud charges with the US Postal Inspector. Go to your local post office and get the forms or go to www.usps.com and I believe you can file a complaint online (sorry...I don't know the exact link to get to the form. Just search their web site). Good luck and let us know what happens! "2002-10-09 nvancamp"

"FAKE LV BAGS-SCAM||321181"

How long ago did this occur? All of the other posts to you contain important information that is needed for us to be able to help you. We will do all we can! Also, visit my "fraud" page ttp://www.mypoupette.com/fraud.html for additional resources. Wishing you the best. "2002-10-09 Poupette"

"Scams on eBay||322110"

Re: Scams on eBay, here is one I experienced. I won an auction for an Authentic Babylone Bag. I was fortunate to get it for a great price and I absolutely love it. After the auction was over, I was contacted by a man who said he was on vacation and missed the end of the auction. He wanted me to sell him my babylone bag! (When does hell freeze over?) I told him I did not deal outside of auctions on eBay. I wish I had kept the email so I could let people know who he is. I contacted the lady I bought the purse from, and she was as shocked as I was that someone would do this. She thought it might be a Credit Card scam. Has any other Louis Vuitton lover been approached like this? The more we can shed light on these creeps the less power they will have."2002-10-11 lynloveslouislouis"


"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!||318200"

TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE? BECAUSE IT'S NOT, DO NOT SHOP FROM WWW.LVSHOPPER.COM, THEY ARE FAKES NO MATTER WHAT THE SELLER SAYS! THANKS FOR THE HELP, GUYS, I ALMOST GOT RIPPED OFF!!!!!"2002-10-03 CRYSTAL"

"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!||318225"

Thanks for the warning!! This is the kind of information everybody in the online LV market needs to know. There are so many others out there. I ask everyone to beware of them."2002-10-03 Poupette"

"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!||320668"

Has this web site been reported to Vuitton's counterfeit department? This web site is going down!!!!!!!!! "2002-10-08 nvancamp"

"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!||320737"

Yes, the link has been sent to LV. Thanks for looking out for potential buyers. "2002-10-08 Poupette"

"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!||320768"

I can't believe that this site is still up and running!! It makes me sick! They even use real pictures and models from real LV ads! Sickening isn't it? "2002-10-08 Claudia"

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"HELP||317920"

I was wondering if you could tell me if the price of Louis Vuitton merchandise varies by country? For example, do you think it would be less expensive to buy a LV handbag in Mexico or France than in America? Also, I don't know if you could answer this, but why will the fake LV leather never oxidize? I received the Papillon as a gift from my boyfriend's parents after a trip they took to Europe and I am not sure if the bag is real or not. I don't want to ask and am WAY too embarrassed to take into the store. The leather looks okay, but I just noticed that the design of the LV is completely different on the other side (designs are going up instead of pointing down) It almost looks as if the leather was wrapped from one side to the other. Do you think it is the way the bag was made? Also, the lining is suede? Is this the French way? Thanks so much for your help. I don't know if you can answer all these questions, but I appreciate it anyway. I am dying to know what the story is on my purse. Thanks. "2002-10-02 Kim"

"HELP||318116"

Yes, the price of LV can vary by country, but the price within each country's boutiques should be the same. I have attempted to collect prices of certain items from various countries, but that project is coming along slowly. I cannot yet tell you which country has the lowest price. Perhaps someone else can expound on that. Louis Vuitton uses a special patented treatment on their leather that allows it to gain a patina over time. Leather that does not have this treatment will not turn. (And that is assuming it is even leather.) As far as the pattern of the monogram on some bags, it is quite normal for LV to use ONE swatch of fabric to design a bag or wallet. When this is done, it will appear right-side up on one side and upside down on the other. There are some bags where the monogram is specifically cut to be right-side up on all sides. You will typically find a place where the stitching has brought those sides together. The design on the side seams should mirror each other. The interior of the bag should be lined with leather. "2002-10-02 Poupette"

"HELP||318294"

I'm not an expert, but I was going to say that there are a couple things to consider with LV prices in other countries. One great example - in the fall of 2000, my sister and I went to Germany and she bought a Sac Plat in the LV Munich store for just over $300...it retails here for $550. At the time, the Deutschmark was 2.5 to the Dollar, and the US economy was much stronger. Of course, with the Euro in place, it basically means that 1 US dollar = 1 Euro, with slight fluctuations. You really can't get a good deal on LV in countries using the Euro anymore. It can also really depend on how a certain country's economy is doing...the one exception would be Japan, their prices are the highest. That's why so many Japanese buy Vuitton when they travel abroad, they can get a good deal compared to what they pay at home."2002-10-03 Alexis"

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"Aussie prices||320582"

Hello again and thanks for replying to my own post. Are you still collecting retail prices of LV? I made a price check on the LV shop up in Sydney (im in Canberra) over the phone just a few weeks ago. I have to call in advance to assure that they have the particular piece available for "viewing" when i go up to Sydney. Just send me a message if you want Australian prices. Cheers! "2002-10-08 uncreated"

"Aussie prices||320584"

Yes, indeed! I am still looking for prices from other countries. I had a small list, but it needed to be updated, so I took it down. If you are able to help with this project it would be greatly appreciated! "2002-10-08 Poupette"

Aussie prices||320606"

Cool! I'm happy to help. Just tell me where you want these prices. Should i list them here? I just have a very select few mostly travel/messenger types, including the Alma and Reporter, but you could just tell me which models you want quotes of, i'll give them a call to find out . =) "2002-10-08 uncreated"

"Aussie prices||320714"

My preference is that you email the prices to me, as I am gathering information from many sources. Please ask about the Speedy 30, the large Noé , the large Looping and the Monogram Alma. Do include sales tax, if you can. Thanks very much! "2002-10-08 Poupette"

"Aussie prices||322427"

Taiwan prices: Hi Angie, my cousin is a flight attendent for Singapore Airlines. She travels between Los Angeles, Taiwan, and Singapore all the time. She's also a LV craze. Would you be interested in collecting pricing info from Taiwan? I'm not sure if there's an LV store in Singapore, but Taiwan for sure because I was born there."2002-10-11 Lily"

"Aussie prices||322442"

I would be absolutely delighted to have this information. I am only requesting it on the items I listed in my second 10/8/02 post to "uncreated." There are LV shops in Singapore. Please send the information to me directly at services@mypoupette.com. Thanks so much! "2002-10-11 Poupette"


"Monogram Mat Willwood||319328"

Hi, You web site is a life saver! Keep up the terrific work. I am considering purchasing the Monogrammed Mat Willwood under eBay item #965738522. I have examined the layout of the LV logos - looks correct. The seller said the date code begins with the letter CA (I have requested the entire code). What do you think; does it appear authentic? Are the letters CA valid? Thank you for any help you can provide. Barb "2002-10-06 Barb"

"Monogram Mat Willwood||319352"

I admit that I am not sure what conclusions to draw from a seller who sells guns and purses, but judging from this seller's feedback, he has no unhappy customers. He has sold a handful of LV items with tags still on them. This would make me wonder where they came from. Although the seller says not to bother him with questions of authenticity, I would. I would want to know where the item came from, why it is being sold so cheap, where it was manufactured and the date code. I would also want a photo of the interior and bottom of the bag. I am not very familiar with the mat line, but do compare with eLUXURY's photo. That brings me to another point...I hesitate to buy from sellers who use photos from eLUXURY or LV'S web site, since I am not certain of what I am purchasing. Other opinions are welcome. "2002-10-06 Poupette"

"Monogram Mat Willwood||319432"

Hi, This is Carol speaking and I just had to get my two cents worth in. I have never seen a Monogram Mat in person, but if you are considering bidding on this auction, please reread the auction. Seller of this auction has a Buy It Now of $800 on this this new "never used" bag. Then I went to eLUXURY.com. LV's retail price is $1090 on their web site, and in American LV stores. There is no way seller can be satisfied w/BIN of $800 and lose almost $300 on a brand new authentic bag. Please be very careful. Carol "2002-10-06 Carol "

Monogram Mat Willwood||320610"

I agree with Poupette's statement on being hesitant on buying a Vuitton from a seller who will not take the time and photograph their own product and steal photos from the eluxury or Vuitton web sites. It seems a little fishy to me. I have a friend who just came back from a trip to Hong Kong and she said that the monogram mat is already being counterfeited. It was plentiful over there and they are THAT convincing (if you do not know how to spot the real vs. the fake). I would ask questions because remember it is your money you are spending. "2002-10-08 nvancamp"

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"URGENT ANSWER NEEDED||320841"

Poupette, I am interested in buying a LV Cannes which I know are out of production . I fell in love with the anti-practical bags a few years ago when a student but by the time I had money they were gone. In the meantime I have purchased several other LV items, but never forgot the Cannes. I have seen one on eBay, being sold by one of your recommended sellers. Could you please tell me if the following sounds right to you...Castillan Red, model #M48037, lined in red Alcantara suede, 8 inches by 8 inches. I am waiting for a response from the buyer as to the condition of the outside of the bag as she has stated the strap & inside are in great condition. She also guarantees authenticity. Could you please let me have your comments. Also can I provide the sellers name to get additional feedback on if she sells good condition LV? I was concerned that she had some negative feedback in eBay. Megan "2002-10-09"

"URGENT ANSWER NEEDED||321004"

I believe Epi Cannes has not discountinued. The current price is around $650. If you want to buy a new one, you may call 1-866-VUITTON to see any of your local Vuittons have it in stock. Some Vuitton do ship items for customers. Hope this helps. "2002-10-09 Sam"

"URGENT ANSWER NEEDED||321146"

I agree with the above-post. The epi cannes is still listed in the current LV catalog. It retails for $650 according to the catalog. Good luck! It's a cute bag! "2002-10-09 nvancamp"URGENT ANSWER NEEDED||321176

The model number and color both sound correct. If you wish to email me privately about this, feel free! "2002-10-09 Poupette"

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"Epi Help!!!||321911"

Can you please look at thie epi Noé on eBay 967551839, and give me your opinion. I have asked the seller about authenticity and she said she guarentees it or money back, but it's the second time she's listed the bag and she just emailed me an offer.....Thank you"2002-10-10 Diana"

"Epi Help!!!||321948"

Hmm....I will be quite honest with you that I feel a bit uncomfortable with this auction. If you notice her previous auctions, she sold a FAKE Vuitton messenger bag (#962243676) at a ludicrious price (almost retail)! Notice, that circular tag on the side of the bag. Remember what Angie said about those tags, a good sign of a FAKE! I leave it up to you to decide. I just have some bad vibes about this eller and her "authentic" goods. If she sold this bag before on eBay, and suddenly has another one listed, that is a sign she sells counterfeits. Let me know what you decide."2002-10-10 nvancamp"

"Epi Help!!!||321974"

This seller has only 11 feedbacks w/one negative. I got into all of her past auctions I could: saw another Epi Petit Noé and 2 bags w/white circular LV tag. What are the odds of one seller w/few feedbacks and one negative have 2 Epi Noé s to sell? Slim!! The 2 monogram bags w/circular white LV tags indicate you need to avoid this seller. Those small tags are on a lot of counterfeit bags coming out of the Orient. If you're interested in good quality authentic Epi bags, consider Angie's Recommended Sellers. Niltiak2@aol.com often has Epi items. "2002-10-10 Carol"


"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||321645"

I purchased a Mono Cabas Piano Bag on eBay and just received the item after 3 weeks. I brought the bag to a LV store and here's the feedback I received: 1. There is a defect(water mark) on the leather on the bottom panel. (It appears that this bag, has been used before). 2. The buckle hardware on the outside of the bag (attaching the straps)does not match with the authentic piece in the store. 3. The canvas is not the same color, texture and quality of the bag in the store. 4. The interior canvas is not of the same texture and feel of the bag in the store. 5. The felt sleeve did not match that of the bag in the store. 6. The box and ribbon appeared not to be used. After reviewing the bag by several sales people, the feeling was that this bag is an incredible knock off and looks great, but to their eyes it appears that there some question on the authenticity. There is an option of Louis Vuitton sending this bag to California to the authentication department, but there is a shipping fee associated with that, and the process takes about 2-3 weeks. And, I don't know if the seller would be willing to take the bag back after that time period. What do I do? The seller did promise a full refund. "2002-10-10 Tracey"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||321760"

Defintely demand a full refund from the seller. "2002-10-10 Poupette"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||321775"

Please go for the refund now! If you have any difficulty getting your refund after communicating directly with the seller; eBay procedures will be available to you through Safe Harbor. The clock started ticking as soon as your auction was over. That's why I'd like you to go for the refund now. If you haven't printed out a copy of your auction, do so now. I'd take pictures of your bag, inside or out. If you have the packing materials in which the bag arrived, save them. (We can go into detail later if you want.) Right now contact seller to get refund. Angie is very experienced in these matters, and I am learning more each day. Please keep in touch!"2002-10-10 Carol"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||321917"

Yes, yes, I agree with Angie and Carol! Please ask for a refund ASAP. Please let us know what happens!! I'm sorry this happened to you."2002-10-10 nvancamp"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||322422"

Please don't feel stupid because when you purchase from auction, you do so in good faith, expecting fair treatment in return. I hope you follow through w/suggestions given in prior message. If you have anymore questions on how to proceed, please write. Also, just keep all of us informed of what transpires."2002-10-11 Carol"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||322436"

I can't believe everyone is being so wonderful!"2002-10-11 Tracey"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||322445"

Ditto what Carol said! We are here to support you. You are not alone. "2002-10-11 Poupette"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||322501"

That's because we are wonderful!! (Couldn't help myself!) Seriously, we really do care. Angie started this crusade. The rest of us have picked up the flag and joined in."2002-10-12 Carol"

"Mono Cabas Piano Bag Scandal||322409"

Thanks for your support, I feel so stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"2002-10-11 Tracey"

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Cabas piano authentication||321963"

I bought Cabas Piano directly from eBay seller, not thru auction. I received the bag and took it to the LV shop near me. Sales people took a look at it and I was told that it was authentic. But they did not examine the bag as closely as I would've liked them to. From visiting your web site I know there are super super fakes out there, I don't know if I should honor their opinion 100% or to seek other form of authentication. After reading the Poupette guide and other web site, this seller seems very suspicious autioning brand new LV's almost everyday. Anyone's response will be appreciated. Thanks Christie"2002-10-10 Christie Kim"

"Cabas piano authentication||321980"

I suggest you go back to your LV store and talk to the manager. The salepeople are wonderful and well-intended, but don't have the years of experience of a manager. Time is an issue on this since you bought it from an eBay auction. For if you do find the bag is not authentic, you will need to contact the seller. If seller is nonresponsive, then go through eBay's Safe Harbor. This is where time comes into play, because eBay calculates its deadlines forvarious stages of redress from the date of auction's end. In the meantime, please return to the LV store to speak with the manager. Your request will not be considered unusual. Perhaps it would be a good idea to call for a convenient time. Please keep in touch!"2002-10-10 Carol"

"Cabas piano authentication||322085"

It is true that are super fake LV bags out there! They are THAT good! good! This is scarey!"2002-10-11 nvancamp"

"Cabas piano authentication||322341"

I hear they are good, but I haven't come across one, yet...I don't think. (smile) "2002-10-11 Poupette"


HELP! I`ve been ripped off!||322758

Hi, I wanted to know if a seller on eBay has a right to say "all sales are final". I won item #964687158 : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=964687158 and she clearly stated that it is authentic and she also verified authenticity though an email to me. When I received it - it's FAKE. She now refuses to refund my money because she says she said "all sales are final in the listing. She misrepresented the item. What do I do now?"2002-10-12 leichan "

HELP! I`ve been ripped off!||322766

How did you pay? If you paid with a credit card, I have been told the credit card company will refund your money if you tell them the item is not authentic, as represented. If you paid with a money order or check, you should contact eBay and report the incident as a seller violation. I would recommend that you enter feedback immediately because this will alert future purchasers that they should be cautious. The eBay process will take a while and eBay doesn't particularly care if the matter is resolved or not. Also, you can file mail fraud charges, an online white crime investigation report, and file a police report with your local police. Once you file the online white crime report, your state's attorney's general office will contact you (at least mine did). If all else fails, you will have to file a small claims action. I would advise you to file it in your city and leave it up to the seller to contest the action on jurisdictional grounds. However, in order to collect any judgments the judgment will have to be in the state where the seller lives, so a judgment in your state may not be that effective. http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/frs-claimform.html go to the post office and request PS Form 8165 which is the mail fraud form Report the crime to the white collar bureau: https://www.ifccfbi.gov However, before you do any of this, mail the seller a letter by certified mail with return receipt and tell him or her that, unless you receive a refund within ten (10) days, then the above actions will be taken. ***Most importantly, though, post a feedback saying that the seller sold you a fake purse that he or she represented as authentic."2002-10-12 bett1e"

HELP! I`ve been ripped off!||322823

Thank you for this very valuable information on the board. "2002-10-12 Poupette"


Mono Twin Clutch||322881 Hi there, pls take a look at this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=968199700 Would you consider bidding if you were me? It seems to be is authentic but i'm not sure. I have taken a look at eluxury for this clutch and everything seems coordinate with the one on auction. I need your professional judgement Angie and Carol. Thanks so much Joyce"2002-10-13 Joyce"

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"Papillon zipper||317847"

Hi Carol - I had a quick question about a older Papillon I saw on eBay. From what I've read (I have Poupette 's guide), the older ones had Eclair zippers. I asked the seller if the zipper had any writing on it, and she responded that it said "Talon". I just wanted to know if this type was used or if that signals a fake. Thanks! "2002-10-02 Alexis"

"Papillon zipper||318080"Hi Redchi, It may not signal a fake if original owner had zipper repaired by someone other than Louis Vuitton. I don't feel comfortable rendering an opinion since I have not examined a Papillon. I think you should ask Angie. "2002-10-02 Carol"

"Papillon zipper||318128"

I will check out the zipper on an authentic Papillon and get back to you asap. If others who own an authentic Papillon can answer, please do! "2002-10-02 Poupette"

"Papillon zipper-follow up||318222"

I have confirmed that older LV models (both French and Domestic) used both Talon and Eclair zippers. "2002-10-03 Poupette "

"Papillon zipper||318295"

Carol - thanks for getting back to me! If I plan on bidding, I'll definitely ask Angie and see if she knows! "2002-10-03 Alexis"

"Papillon zipper||318333"

Hi I had an old one--the zipper said "falcon". Another old (French Co.) bag I still have has the same zipper. Emily "2002-10-03 emily"

"Papillon zipper||321919"

Hi! I have a friend who owns an older model (early 90's) Papillon (large)but it has the eclair shaped zipper with "LV" on it. Maybe you should contact the Vuitton customer service number and find out whether the older/vintage Papillon bags had that particular zipper pull. Let me know because I am curious myself."2002-10-10 nvancamp"

"Papillon zipper||321976"

See Angie's Papillon zipper follow-up of 10-03-02."2002-10-10 Carol"


"Hardware Question||322439"

Do know if the brass hardware on the Monogram Cabas Piano Bag has changed? The reason why is the bag I purchased, the hardware matches the illustration in the LV catalog, a diagonal groove in all 4 corners of each buckle. But, at the store this hardware doesn't have the groove and it appears to be brushed vs. a shiny finish. My last attempt to see if this bag may be authentic."2002-10-11 Tracey"

"Hardware Question||322502"

It's possible. Did you ask them this question at the store?"2002-10-12 Carol"


"LV hardware question||322520"

Good day to you Carol! I would just like to ask about the hardware in LV products especially the zippers and buttons. What's there to look out for? What should be inscribed on them aside from the obvious "LV"? Would they be manufactured by a different company like YKK? Or are these easy giveaways for a fake? Thanks."2002-10-12 uncreated "

"LV hardware question||322662"

Hi! I can only address this issue in regards to monogram. Zipper pulls have LV only on them. Speedy zippers have leather pull-tab attached by brass brad with Louis Vuitton on it in very small letters. Most of the brads on my bags are like that except the D-ring brad inside Montsouris backpack, which has LV only on it. I think some of the old vintage monogram bags had YKK zippers."2002-10-12 Carol"


"LV Taiga||320306"

Hello and good day from Australia! I've recently caught the "LV bug" and would really like to have a few pieces for personal use. I do believe that investing in such high quality standard and the "exclusivity" it carries is worthwhile. And buying vintage/discounted online is the most practical for my present means. Being male and not too keen on brown and busy prints, I'm more interested in the Taiga (Ardoise) and black Epi lines or even the Mono Mat collection of Louis Vuitton. It seems that most collectors only specialize in the monogram canvas, would you or someone you know, know more about the Taiga line? I would just like to know the basics in spotting an authentic piece from a fake. Being a rather plain collection, the differences are quite subtle. Would you know of anyone who sells Taiga or any other black LV (new or vintage) online? Any info you could impart would be very much appreciated. I do hope to hear from you soon. Cheers! javier "2002-10-08 uncreated"

"LV Taiga||320427"

I really wish I had a great answer for you, but all (both) of the Taiga pieces I have owned have been sold. I would say that, as with any online purchase, you want to know how the product should look and be comfortable with the seller. If you should come across an item of interest to you, I would be happy to offer my humble opinion on it. If there are any owners of authentic LV Taiga out there, we'd love to hear from you! "2002-10-08 Poupette"

"LV Taiga||321381"

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&

query=Vuitton+taiga&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=

2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch= ___ These are the 3 current auctions on eBay. From all appearances, it would appear that the Taiga line is one of the more easiest to counterffeit. You probably have to be very careful buying it used. "2002-10-09 bett1e"


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